Creative Shop Stamper Review - Follow Up

Wednesday, January 14, 2015 20 Comments A+ a-

After I did my first review on the Creative Shop stamper on this post, I almost gave up on this stamper. Then my friend Coppi received her stamper I gifted and she did a massive experiment on it. You can see her post here. It's in Japanese but you'll get an idea with the pics.

Coppi spent half a day trying everything and noticed one thing that makes a difference - the way she scrapes. That's what I didn't mention in my first post so I thought I'd do some more experiments and do the follow-up. I'm still experimenting, so this is just an interim report.

I made few hypotheses and assumptions before going into this experiment:

1. This stamper has a flat head unlike most others on the market. Does that affect the way it's picking up images?

2. It sometimes leaves bold spots when picking up images. Does it make a difference if you fill in with more polish on patterns than usual?

今日はここで紹介したCreative Shopスタンパーの補足記事を書きたいと思います。最初のレビュー後、このスタンパーについては正直諦めかけていました。しかし程なくして、こっぴさんにお贈りしたスタンパーが届き、その日のうちに素晴らしい大実験を行ってくださいました。その模様はこちらの記事に書かれています。こっぴさんの熱心さには本当に頭が下がります(T_T)。

記事のアップの前に私信もいただき、スクレイプの方法を変えたらうまく行くようになったことを教えていただきました。スクレイプ・・・正直まったく盲点でした!というわけで私ももう一度このスタンパーと向き合う決意をして、こっぴさんの助言を胸に再実験してみることにしました。まだまだ完全版とは言えないので、途中経過の中間報告ぐらいの位置付けです。

実験にあたって立てた仮設は以下のとおり。

1. このスタンパーは他の多くのスタンパーと違ってヘッドが平ら。これが柄を拾うときに影響を与えているのか?

2. 柄がかすれるということは、通常よりも多くのポリッシュがプレートの柄に流れ込むようにすれば良い結果が出るか?

To address the hypothesis #1, I pushed the edge of this stamper right in the holder to make the head round a bit. I didn't check to see if it makes a difference just by doing this, as I tried lots of different things at the same time. Definitely worth a try because the round head should ensure each part of a image be equally picked up by rolling motion.

仮説その1のヘッドの形状問題に対処すべく、まずヘッドの淵をスタンパーにグイグイ押し込んでヘッドが丸みを帯びるようにしてみました。以前のやり方を変えずにこの状態だけで違いが出るかは確認しなかったので、これだけで効果が出るかは分かりません。ただ、論理上は丸みを帯びることで転がしピックアップのときに柄が均等にスタンパーに乗っていくのではと思われます。


Now onto hypothesis #2. This is where Coppi's advice comes into play - scraping. By the way, the experiment on my first post was done by my good ole' library card, not the scraper that comes with the stamper. I didn't mention it because I didn't think it would make a difference. To be honest, I didn't like this Creative Shop scraper that's thinner and more flexible than my library card. Harder to work with after getting used to my library card. But then, I tried it in this experiment and it gave me a better result. 

Coppi suggested in her post to scrape slowly and very lightly at a low angle once (sort of smearing the polish onto the plate), then scrape again with the same motion to take the polish excess off the plate. She uses a plastic card in her post. I found this very useful. It ensures that every little gap on the image is properly filled with stamping polish. My usual scraping is pretty fast with 45 degrees angle, but you need a different strategy with this stamper. 

そして仮説その2。ここでスクレイプが肝というこっぴさんの助言が活かされます。ちなみに最初のレビューなのですが、Creative Shopのスクレイパーではなくいつもの図書カード(クレジットカードと同じ硬さのもの)を使用しています。スクレイプに問題があるとはまったく思わなかったので、その点記載しませんでした。正直、このCreative Shopのスクレイパーはあまり好きではありませんでした。私の図書カードより薄く柔軟なので、硬いカードに慣れた私としては使いにくいと感じていました。しかし、今回の実験でこのCreativeスクレイパーを使うことで良い結果が出ました。

こっぴさんはゆっくりと軽いタッチで、低い角度で一度スクレイプし(プレートにポリッシュを塗りつける要領で)、再度同じ動きでスクレイプして余分なポリッシュを掃き取る、という方法を提案されています。こっぴさんはこのときいつものプラスチックカードを利用されています。この方法、「なるほど!」と非常に納得しました。プレートの溝の隅々までしっかりとポリッシュを流し込むことができるからです。私の通常のスクレイプは素早くシュッとそこそこの力を込めて行い、角度は45度です。しかし、このスタンパーでは別のスクレイプ戦略が必要です。


This the library card I normally use. I scrape at this 45 degrees angle. 

これがいつも私が使っている図書カード。いつもはこの45度の角度でスクレイプしています。


This is the Creative Shop scraper. You can see that it's flexible and bendable. This 'warp' when scraping forms lower angle than usual. I scrape very slowly, making sure every little gap is filled with polish. One scrape is enough, but if polish looks overflown, scrape twice.

Also, I roll the stamper very slowly when picking up images, again, to ensure that the stamper picks up every little detail. I don't roll too hard, but not too soft.

そしてこれがCreative Shopのスクレイパー。薄く柔らかいのでスクレイプする際にこのようにたわんで通常より低い角度になります。スクレイプはこっぴさんの助言のとおり、非常にゆっくりといつもより軽めに、あらゆる溝にポリッシュを埋めていく要領で。ポリッシュが綺麗にはけたら1度だけ、溢れているようなら2度スクレイプ。

また、柄をスタンパーで転がして拾うときもゆっくり動作で。5秒ぐらいかけてスタンパーに細かい箇所まで転写されていくイメージで。転がすときの力の入れ具合は強すぎず、弱すぎず。この辺は慣れです^_^;


And here is one of the results. Only minor bold spots compared to my first result. I have to adjust the pressure when I scrape because the polish is overflown a bit on the right bottom of each image. Otherwise it looks good!

そして以上を試した結果がこちら。同じ柄を使った最初の結果と比べてどうでしょうか?かすれがだいぶなくなっていますね(゚∀゚) ただ、スクレイプの力の掛け具合にまだ課題が残ります。柄の右下あたり、ポリッシュが溢れていますね。それ以外はかなりいいんじゃないでしょうか。


Better pic of the image above. Only minor bold spots. I think I'm in the right direction now, but I know this isn't the end of this journey. I'm still having trouble with some of the other images even with this method. I will keep trying to get the best result!

上の画像を拡大したもの。ポリッシュが溢れているのを除けば、前回のときのようなドット内の欠けやかすれが大分解消されているのが見て取れるかと思います。ただ、まだ同じ方法で試してもうまくピックアップされない柄もあります。なのでこれで実験は終わりではありません。最適な結果を得るための実験はまだまだ続けていきます。

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M Kanugo
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14 January 2015 at 20:36 delete

Hi Cassis,
Thanks so much for the honest review and the update! I recently ordered mine from Rainbow Connection and am waiting for them (they'll ship only at the end of Jan). I'm hoping I get something usable :)
Cheers!
Mithila

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Cassis P
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14 January 2015 at 20:50 delete

No problem Mithila! I'm so desperate to get this stamper to work because I bought three LOL. If it looks like yours doesn't work properly, try what I said here and let me know! :D

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megumi moto
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14 January 2015 at 22:11 delete

カシスさんのこちらのポストを拝見し、改めて、コツを掴むまでが難しいスタンパーですが、コツを掴めば、長い爪の方にも大きなパターンが一発で爪にピックアップ出来る夢のスタンパーだと思いました。
カシスさんの助言通りにゆっくりピックアップしたら、劇的によくなりました。
それにカシスさんの今日のポストにありました、表面がフラットとアーチですが、私は何度も何度も練習したせいで、ヘッド部分がホルダーに埋まって自然にアーチ型になっていることに気づきました。
CREATIVEのスタンパーは今は入手がむずかしいですが、もう他のブランドがこぞって発売すると思うので、そうなればまたスタンパージプシーが始まるのでしょうか…
ポストの写真ですがラッカーがもれているとありますが、私には完璧にInfinityのパターンがピックアップされてるように見えました!ドットにも穴が空いてないし真っ直ぐなラインも歪んでなくてラッカーも掠れる事なく転写されていて、何度も練習されたんだな~って脱帽です。
これからもいっぱい練習して、カシスさんに頂いたスタンパーを生かせるスタンピングをしていきたいです!
カシスさん!ありがとうございましたm(__)m

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Cassis P
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15 January 2015 at 10:04 delete

こっぴさん、こんにちわ!

こちらこそ本当に本当にありがとうございます(T_T)。こっぴさんの助言をいただくまでは諦めモードで別のスタンパー探しの旅に出掛けていました。こっぴさんのおっしゃるスクレイプ方法の変更はまったく盲点でした。でもスクレイプの方法を変えた1回目から大きな違いが出ました。

このスタンパー、経験の長いスタンパーさんたちから続々と「全然使えない」という声が上がってますよね。違うスクレイプ方法が必要なスタンパーはたぶんこれが初めてだと思います。

スタンパーヘッドですが、私は盛んに取り外して写真撮ってはめこんで、を繰り返していたのでずっとフラットなまま使っていました^_^; この点も、最初からラウンドになるよう改良版作ってくれないかな~という思いでちらっと書いてみました。

こっぴさんほどではないですが、私もMundoをだいぶ無駄にしつつ練習頑張っています(;▽;) 日によってうまく行くときと行かないときがあって、まるで生き物のようですよね、このスタンパー(笑。完全に手なずける日までのんびりとやっていこうと思います。元気が出るコメント、本当にありがとうございます!!\(^o^)/

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Sakico
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15 January 2015 at 11:56 delete

スタンパーヘッドの形状!確かにこうやって画像で見ると違いますね。スクレイプの方法もだいぶ違いますね、寝かして見えたのはスクレイパーの柔らかさだったんですね。この方法は溝の深いガリガリプレートにも使えそうです。試してみよう。
カシスさんもこっぴさんも本当に勉強研究熱心で、刺激されまくりです。そして記事を読む度にもっと練習したい!と思えます。スタンピングはスタンパー、プレート、スクレイプどれも一定しない私は毎回うんうん唸りながら練習中です。でも楽しいからやめられないです(≧▽≦)

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15 January 2015 at 14:44 delete

Holy cow! I've never read a review that is so deep like this before!! Hats off to your passion!! I might try your technique using a flexible card as a scraper :D Thank you Cassis <3 xxx

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Cassis P
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15 January 2015 at 18:44 delete

Sakicoさん、こんにちわ!

溝が浅いのも困りますが、深いプレートありますよね(笑。スクレイプの方法変えればうまくいくと思いますよ♪

このCSスタンパー、玄人スタンパーさんたちほど毛嫌いしているんですよ^_^; もうやり方が確立していると、このスタンパーのためにやり方変えるのが腹立たしいようで(笑。試行錯誤中のSakicoさんにはもしかして合うかもしれませんよ♪

私はいつもはここまで探求しません^_^; こっぴさんがいなかったら、「はい次~」と別のスタンパーを探していたと思います。こっぴさんの熱心さに完全にほだされました(゚∀゚) でも探求してよかったです。このスタンパーじゃないとできない技は確実にあります。Sakicoさんも練習、楽しんでやってくださいね\(^o^)/ 私も頑張ります☆

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Cassis P
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15 January 2015 at 18:50 delete

Haha, thanks Minnie! :D It's getting all technical, isn't it!? I don't normaly pursue like this, but I'm pretty desperate to use this stamper.

Yeah the scraping method can affect your stamping result, so if you're having trouble now, you might wanna change the scraper. I don't use the standar black scraper that comes with many XL round stampers. They degrade with acetone use. Plastic card serves me perfectly, just not for this CS stamper.

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Evelyn Novoa
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21 February 2015 at 03:23 delete

wow!!! this is a wonderful review Cassis. I got my stamper on december and saw reviews from Swanette (Nailstamp4fun) so I learned about rolling instead of pressing, but still had some pick up problems (bald spots), after reading this review I did push down my stamper into the holder to make it a bit round. I think my al time favorite is Messymansion stampers I own a set of firm and squishy firm and love them, I just wish they were the size of the Creative. ;) . Thank you for this awesome review.

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Cassis P
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21 February 2015 at 08:00 delete

Glad the review was helpful, Evelyn!^^ Yeah, my CS stamper is a bit tricky but it has started to behave well after few adjustments :D

I keep missing out on Messy Mansion colour heads, but will get them as soon as they come back in stock next time! Julia @Messy Mansion is awesome, so I think she will consider creating bigger heads^^

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Danitza
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23 February 2015 at 07:12 delete

Hi girl! i just got my stamper last week and the first trials were ok and then when I primed it, the results were really bad ... like one girl that mentions before, i also got the messy mansion squishy set and I love it, i didnt have to prime it.In the first days I felt really sad because I thought I was the only one who couldn't make it work. Yesterday I spent like 3 hours with different polishes (not only special for stamping) and i was quite frustrated. Today I found your post about this stamper and that is recent information (last month) and I feel so happy that I am not the only one. Today I tried with the rolling montion and more thick polishes (like mundo de uñas or handy or konad) and the results were so much better than yesterday. I am thinking that in my experience, stamping polish also has to do with the results you get. However, today I will try to use this technique you mention ( i didnt even consider the flat head or the circular head) and i will let you know my results. Thank you again for making this post because it was a light in my dark tunnel using the creative stamper haha. Greetings from Mexico!

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Cassis P
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23 February 2015 at 09:51 delete

You're welcome, Danitza! Hope you can get yours working. This was the result with MdU, so I knew that regular polishes wouldn't work great. But I did try with my regular polish (China Glaze HeliYum that I know works for stamping) with this CS stamper, but the result was miserable even with this new tactics.

Also I heard the silicon reacts differently depending on the weather/season, and some girls just left it untouched for few weeks and it started working again. Anyway, please let me know how it goes!

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Danitza
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9 March 2015 at 07:00 delete

Hey Cassis! It's me again! I have to tell you that I left my CS untouched inside of a sandwich bag for like 3 weeks (also because I didnt have time to do my nails haha) but yesterday I did my nails and I was going to use only my messy mansion pink stamper but I thought to give a try to the CS stamper. And well one thing I did different is that I covered the full image in MdU, then I use the CS scraper super super slowly and with an angle like 30 degrees and I also use the roll technique and it worked better than before. The plate that I used was one from Cheeky and my manicure looked better than the first time ... so far I only will use MdU for the CS stamper but I also have changed my technique when I scrape, and I really mean super slowly haha ... here in Guadalajara the weather is hot and a bit dry ... well for me 28°C is super hot haha but considering that weather affects stamping, that might be another factor ... I feel happy that this manicure I did was better than my first uses and it gives me hope that one day I will "master" using my CS hahahaha .... maybe if I decide to do a video about how I did my manicure I will let you know so you can see "my own technique" .... thank you again for your comments and greetings!

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Cassis P
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9 March 2015 at 11:30 delete

Thanks for the feedback, Danitza! Nice to know that yours is starting to work better :D I read on the facebook group too about putting it in the plastic bag for a while. Gotta try and see :) It's summer going into autumn here in Australia, with temperature going up near 40 degrees sometimes. It's getting cooler now but let's see how my CS stamper reacts with temperature change.

After the review, I only used twice for my real manis but both times worked fine. That big head is definitely a plus, so I'll use it more often and try to get use to it :)

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clairestelle
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14 May 2015 at 10:16 delete

Such a great and helpful blog post. My creative stamper was good at first but it misses spots all the time now and I'm ready to give up! I also don't like the rolling method you have to use with this stamper as I miss bits of the design. I need a squishy stamper as my nails are very curvy. Could you recommend another stamper? FabUrNails or Messy Mansion perhaps? Thanks so much for any advice :)

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clairestelle
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14 May 2015 at 10:17 delete

Such a great and helpful blog post. My creative stamper was good at first but it misses spots all the time now and I'm ready to give up! I also don't like the rolling method you have to use with this stamper as I miss bits of the design. I need a squishy stamper as my nails are very curvy. Could you recommend another stamper? FabUrNails or Messy Mansion perhaps? Thanks so much for any advice :)

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Cassis P
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14 May 2015 at 11:34 delete

Thanks Claire! Aww don't give up! CS owner said to leave the stamper head in a ziplock bag overnight when it starts to perform bad. I haven't tried it but it does seem to react and perform differently over time or depending on the climate.

I have just written up another long stamper review post and am about to post it. This time from Messy Mansion. I bought Soft (pink) and Medium Soft (yellow) sets and am so impressed. These and Fab Ur Nails stampers perform great, although as far as squishiness goes, MoYou London rectangle is the king of marshmallow. Hope you like the post, and feel free to ask if you have any q's :)

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K Sha
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14 August 2015 at 13:58 delete

You should get sticky marshmallow XL stamper from moyou London. They are the same size as creative stamper and look the same, except moyou one has their name engraved at the bottom of the holder cup. Plus, they come in a set of 2 (white & transparent heads with 1 holder) for £9.99 and you can choose sticky (for geginner) and non-sticky (fot advanced). Or you can get just 1 (either white or transparent head with holder) on their own for £6 each, which also come in stivky & non-sticky. I purchased a set of sticky heads and I gotta tell you I wish I purchased 2 of transparent ones instead. Although it would have cost £12 instead of a set £9.99, it would have been better value as transparent one picks up great and doesn't need to be Primed (plus I would get 2 holder cups instead of 1). White stamper head is a pain in the butt to work with even after I Primed it. It still have bald spots. BTW, I watched so many reviewes on YouTube and read online reviews about these moyou stampers and no one ever mentioned once that they tears easily. The reason being, they are made with super soft marshmallow material like casis said with her moyou rectangle stamper (same or even softer) and the material is so soft that it makes it fragile. So when I stamp (whether I roll or press down,), the stamper head gets push against the rim of the cup holder as they are so soft and squishy. So after just 2 uses, I noticed that the stamper head rim where it touches the rim of the holder cup got little tears and bits of silicone started coming off. I thought I messed it up but seems it wasn't my fault as most people on you tube got the same little tears around the rim when I ask them in comments. Now after 4 uses, I see a line cracked about 1cm in the middle of the stamper as a result of me trying to get the stamper head squeaky clean before use. Since they are super sticky, every little bit if dust sticks to them and impossible to clean with lint roller. So I tried to remove it, scrape it, pick it up with my nail and that crack happened. I'm so annoyed as I had high hopes for it cause of all the good first impression review avout them. I had to waiti 4days as it was out of stock then wait another 3 more days to receive it then that happened when I used it. I wish all these youtubers would have done the updated reviews on them like casis did with CS. Then I would have been aware of the problems I could face. Don't get me wrong I still love them. I just wish I've known to not push it down hard to cause tears. Sorry for long post, thought I gave you info on the moyou stamper which is like a twin of CS but sticker and true marshmallow. As you've got curve nails, I think they be good for you but don't push it so hard when you use them and tape the rim of the holder cup to avoid tears (although the steel rim of holder cup isn't sharp to touch, I assume it's sharp enough for marshmallow head to cause tears). Hope this helps.

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K Sha
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14 August 2015 at 14:01 delete

Have you tried the moyou stamper heads that looks just like CS except they are true marshmallow and come in white & transparent? If so, what do you think of them? Thanks for the great review as alwyas. Love from London. Xoxo

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Cassis P
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14 August 2015 at 14:41 delete

No I haven't tried MoYou ones yet. I have quite a few working stampers, so I'm not in a hurry to get those. Although, that size would be ideal for testing stamping plates on paper lol. Harunouta (Japanese Born Pretty) is sending me a CS lookalike stamper soon, so I'll do a review on that one when it arrives :)

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